Pretty big news from Washington Post today.

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Allegations Brought to Inspectors General

By Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A03

Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.

In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said.

"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."

Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration.

A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday.

A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry.

In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate -- though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals -- and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night.

For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington.

In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft -- American Airlines Flight 11 -- long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.

Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania.

These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes -- along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence -- led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11.

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."

Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel.

John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral.

"My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me."
There is no doubt that the ball is rollin', rollin', rollin'.

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  1. The Artistic Macrophage // 12:48 PM  

    So the big panels of evil doers and liers has now said that the FAA and NORAD may have lied to them...So the so called liers are claiming they were lied to, and now you believe them. You don't believe any of their huge report, but you believe this...why...cause it helps "The Cause".

    Sorry...just a little miffed at the hypocritical nature of the "truth Movement" today bro.

  2. The Artistic Macrophage // 12:50 PM  

    And what they "lied" about is old news. The reference is to the initial claim by FAA and NORAD that they had jets scrambled and ready to take down the flights on order. We have known, for ages, that the planes were not close, and we know why...we know of the phantom plane (AA Flight 11 being mistakenly id'ed after it had blown up), and blah blah is old, coming public is not, thats all.

  3. Stephen Eli Harris // 12:54 PM  

    Be miffed all you want.

    This report merely gives more credibility to the Truth Movement and the huge amount of proof, distortions, lies, cover ups and innacuracies that they have been trying to uncover for 5 years.

    I can't wait to see how miffed you're going to be when all this comes out and you realize you've been backing the wrong people. People who would rather create attack ads and debunking sites instead of taking thier fight to the Government and making them answer the questions.

    The ball is rolling.

  4. The Artistic Macrophage // 5:33 PM  

    Steven, you know I am not backing the Bush administration. I think they are dopes. I am simply saying that your group should try and formulate a plausible theory.

    Is an independent investigation (Free of CTers and govt and debunkers) needed, YES!!!

    The trouble I have is that the 911 commission were suppose to be (according to most of your fellow truthers) the demons. Now they are actually calling out people that might have lied or exagerrated things to who are the bad guys now. The commission, the govt, the FAA, NORAD, all of them...

    In the end, when you get your investigation, I believe what will come out is not some stupid NWO Molach based Bohemian crap, but rather a bunch of bumbling government idiots who should have acted better than they did.

    But...we will see...or will we.

    FUCK IT. LET NUT jobs rule the fucking world, you seem to think the ones that are running it now are, so why not just let the other NUTTERS like FETZER and JONES run the country. In the end it wont make any difference. If you let them run it, money will corrupt them, and the demon will just go by a different name...

  5. Stephen Eli Harris // 5:52 PM  

    Yes, we shall see.

    In the meantime, keep researching. You can't ignore it all... or can you?

  6. The Artistic Macrophage // 5:53 PM  

    No my friend, and I don't intend to. You and I for now, stand on opposite sides of the battlefield, but we are still friends, we are just guided by different forces right now. Maybe in the end we will come to a "Third Position" somewhere between GW Bush and Alex Jones.


  7. The Artistic Macrophage // 5:55 PM  

    But I think you should try to stay above the mean rhetoric of those that lead your movement. You've got to admit that those MarkyX videos do not help your movement. Stay calm, state you arguments, accept when good solid PROOF, proves you wrong, and I will do the same...or try anyway... :)

  8. Stephen Eli Harris // 6:42 PM  

    The MarkyX videos do nothing to the movement and are mearly attack ads. They're used to take focus away from the information being presented by the folks in the Truth Movement and I find it incredibly sad that you fell for it and worse, are using it as a case for the non believers side.

    The difference between me and you is that you've aligned yourself with a side. I haven't. I just hold firm on what I come to believe.

    Furhtermore, if you believe that Alex Jones, Dylan Avery or any of those other folks are 'leading' the movement, you're sadly mistaken. It's the hundreds of thousands of people (1/3 of Americans according to a new poll, let alone the rest of the world) who are risking everything to expose this madness.

    Debate is over, my friend. If you dont' believe then, fine. You will.

  9. The Artistic Macrophage // 6:48 PM  

    I read that poll, and like most, the actual truth lies in how you break it down. 36% believe that strongly OR somewhat was one part...I cant remember the other off hand, but in the end it was really saying that 36% of the poll believed something was being kept from them on the matter. If I were asked, I would probably feel the same - note poll was only 1000 people, and if you know anything about polls, it is the subtly of the questions wording that is the most important factor in what answer you get.

    You certainly have aligned yourself with a side as much as i have.

    But please don't make it personal. I didn't mean it that way. I meant in terms of the story we believe.

    It was my mistake in responding to your post. We are better off not discussing this with each other.

    Maybe "Spokespeople" would be the proper term for AJ, JF, and DA.

  10. Stephen Eli Harris // 6:57 PM  

    Polls are just guidance and mean nothing, I know. What matters is that the questions, innacuracies, lies and cover ups is finally being heard by many people.

    As for taking sides; sure I have. I'm siding with peace and the removal of a corrupt Government which has major control over where the future of this world is headed. Alex Jones, Dylan Avery and whoever else you wish to discredit mean nothing to me. The 500 Scholars (for example) and hundreds and thousands of angry people crying for help do.

    Darryl, I'm not taking this personal and never will. My fight is not with you or any other non believer. My fight is with those who made you that way... and me that way up until recently.

  11. The Artistic Macrophage // 7:24 PM  


    That is by far the most honest and genuine thing I have heard you say on the topic. Thank you for leaving the Rhetoric aside, and telling me how YOU feel. No towing the party line is refreshing. If that is, in all honesty, what you seek, than I am not far off it.

    Here is my purpose.

    1. To make sure that the facts from all good credible sources are available to joe public. Now because there are many more CT sites than debunk sites, I chose to focus on that side of the "Truth". It is the side that right now I believe.

    2. I believe the US govt is corrupt at many levels. If that is what you wish to come out, so do I.

    3. I think that alot of the people who publicly represent your side of the issue, go way to far without solid evidence.

    Questioning is democratic, misleading for what ever reason, is I think the US govt and DA and crowd are guilty of the latter.

  12. Stephen Eli Harris // 7:46 PM  

    The only problem I see with all this is that you automatically discredit information coming from one side but totally agree with information coming from the other.

    Regardless, I believe we'll both get what we want in the very near future. Unfortunatly, it'll be a very ugly part of our history when it does come out or worse, it becomes very ugly before a chance for the truth to emerge.

    Time is running out afterall. We are well on our way to WWIII whether people want to face it or not.